As you probably know, Pat Robertson recently suggested that the United States assassinate Hugo Chavez, the president of Venezuela. As a person who has spent a substantial amount of time in Venezuela during Chavez’s presidency, and as an individual who studies politics for a living, I thought it might make sense to offer a brief overview of what the situation is there.
So, the first question: is Chavez a dictator? Robertson’s call for his murder was based on the idea that Chavez was a dictator like Saddam Hussein and that the United States would eventually have to go to war to eliminate him anyway. And an assassination is probably cheaper and easier than a war. However, setting aside the question of whether we are required to go to war against dictators, it’s really unclear whether Robertson is correct in classifying Chavez as a dictator.
Why not? Well, first of all, Chavez was elected. Several times, in fact. Chavez became president through elections in 1998 that were generally regarded as free and fair. He was reelected by a 60% to 38% margin in new presidential elections in 2000. In 2004, he got 58% of the vote in a recall election. The fairness of the recall election was disputed; the political opposition argued that there had been massive fraud. However, at least three considerations argue against this. First, the Carter Center (run by Jimmy Carter, ex-president of the United States) observed the entire electoral process. It’s hard to imagine the Carter Center signing off on a clearly fraudulent election. Second, the final results were pretty close to being the same as the last public opinion polls before the election. Chavez outperformed the polls–but he always has, even in 1998 when he didn’t control the electoral institutions. The reason Chavez outperforms the polls is that pollsters in Venezuela have a very hard time including the poorest Venezuelans–yet these folks overwhelmingly support Chavez on election days. Third, statistical analysis of the results showed little evidence of the kind of fraud the opposition was alleging. (Two Harvard professors did an analysis supporting fraud; however, when their results were replicated with a correction for the way the sample was taken, the end result was not statistically significant.) So, Chavez may not be a dictator because Chavez regularly wins contested elections.
A second reason that Robertson’s categorization of Chavez as a dictator seems problematic is that Chavez retains majority support in public opinion polls, even those done by his opponents. One pollster recently told me that his support may be as high as the 60-70% range, and I haven’t seen any recent data that puts him below 50%. Dictators routinely claim to be wildly popular in their countries; what makes Chavez different is that he can prove that he is wildly popular.
Third, and for the moment last, is the fact that the political opposition in Chavez’s Venezuela is alive and well. The news media routinely prints editorials and news pieces that depict Chavez negatively; for proof, if you read Spanish, look at the daily editorials here. Likewise, opposition political parties continue to exist. They just don’t have any supporters.
So, in at least some ways, the title of "dictator" is inadequate for Chavez. However, the man has shown what we might call dictatorial tendencies. Chavez has repeatedly used the court system to harrass and persecute his opponents. One current drama of this type involves charges of treason against a group called Sumate. Sumate ran a voter education campaign in the lead-up to the recall referendum in 2004, something which is legal in Venezuela even if the campaign is politically biased. (Sumate has a clear, openly acknowledged bias in favor of the Venezuelan opposition.) Because Sumate used money from the US National Endowment for Democracy to help fund the campaign, its leadership now faces substantial jail time. International observers have reported that this prosecution really does not meet the norms for the rule of law. Nor is it one of a kind; Chavez has used the courts against other opposition leaders.
A second area of concern is Chavez’s apparent inability to distinguish betwen Fidel Castro’s regime and democracy. Over the last week, Chavez explained that Castro’s country isn’t a dictatorship, it’s a "revolutionary democracy." This is the most recent, and most explicit, in a series of statements in which Chavez has been evidently unable to see the flaws in Cuba’s one-party regime that routinely sends protestors and dissidents to prison basically forever. If Chavez cannot understand these problems, one is forced to worry about Venezuela’s future. But it’s really not clear to me that assassination would be the proper way to express such worries.
Last but not least, what has Chavez’s presidency meant for the church in Venezuela? As far as I can tell, not much. When we were there about eight months ago, there were still plenty of US missionaries working in Caracas and other parts of the country. (Poor kids!) There’s a functioning temple in Caracas and there are several stakes in the country. Fast and testimony meetings have a certain tendency to devolve into political debates ("The church supports Chavez! I have a testimony of his health care programs." "No! The church opposes Chavez! I have a testimony that he’s a communist and an atheist."), which is entertaining if not very spiritual. But I think that’s about it. So I’m not sure that, as members of the church, we legitimately have a horse in this race.


Dictators can of course come to power democratically. Indeed the leaders from whom we get our term “Dictator” were basically elected in ancient Greece.
Thanks for some clarification! I’ve been a bit baffled by the fuss.
MRKH
Thanks for the summary. I was hoping you’d post something on Chavez and appreciate your insight. My experience in Venezuela is limited to a 6-week stay in ‘98 that felt like a year. Chavez was only a candidate then, and the military officers I was dealing with assured us that there would be a coup were he elected.
I have mixed feelings about Chavez. One one hand, I see him as a perfect example of the ‘hate that hate created’, the natural product of a political class squandering and stealing billions in oil revenue while ignoring a growing population of the desperately poor. Simply by being what he is: the first president of Venezuela who physically resembles the majority of the population, he is almost guaranteed the unconditional support of those left out of the party of Venezuela Saudita.
I really don’t like the opposition much either. I find it disturbing that they protest, now, over corruption when for years they were silent. There is also a very clear racial breakdown–the opposition looks like they would fit right in on any street in Milan or Madrid, while Chavez’s folks probably wouldn’t.
On the other, I see the increasing polarization of Venezuelan society around the Chavez issue as a very dangerous trend. When I read some of the statements by both the opposition and Chavez supporters, I’m reminded of the atmosphere around Perón in the 1940s-1950s that continued until the 1970s, where it all ended very badly.
Chavez’s arms purchases don’t bother me too much–after all, nobody complained as long as the Vennies were buying F-16s, C-130s, UH-1 helicopters, M-16 assault rifles, and other assorted war toys, so it would be hypocritical to complain about Chavez’s recent buying spree. I am concerned about his plans to create what seems to be a parallel military force, something both Perón and Salvador Allende in Chile were advised to do but never did. Would Chavez use them in the event of losing an election or to avoid losing one? The opposition insists he already has, but again I’m not so sure.
Jack, in order to keep things as simple as possible, I tried to avoid economic issues in this post. Modern social-science definitions of democracy try to avoid including economic-policy attributes. After all, you can have socialist democracies and free-market dictatorships. It’s more analytically and normatively useful to have these as separate attributes.
That said, it’s important to acknowledge that Chavez is in fact spending a lot more on the poor than previous presidents did. Even during the oil boom of the 1970s, relatively little trickled down to the destitute. So spending a lot of money to provide cheap food, extensive educational opportunities, and health care sounds pretty defensible to me. There is almost certainly a lot of corruption involved in this. But there’s also a lot of money getting to people who really need it.
On the other hand, I would like to see a more serious effort at explaining how the Venezuelan government plans to transform the society and economy to help the destitute majorities stop being destitute. Education is obviously a step in that direction, as are microcredit programs. The frequently-discussed idea of sending people back to the countryside to farm seems pretty unhelpful, however.
But Jack has raised the scariest aspect of the situation in Venezuela: the polarization. This is actually somewhat less intense than it was a few years ago, since many in the opposition have become less mobilized following their string of political defeats. But it’s still a bitterly divided country.
The prospect of Chavez losing an election in the near future seems remote at best. As long as oil prices stay high, he’ll have a ton of money to spend and will probably remain the most popular man in the country.
There’s a lot more that could be said about this situation, but I’m not going to get a job out of writing it here, so I’ll stop for now…
For what it’s worth, I found this on the Caracas Mission Alumni website:
“President Webb reports that on Wednesday, May 25, 2005, the Venezuela Caracas Mission received a missionary from the United States for the first time this year, only one, but there is hope that more will be called soon. It has been difficult for missionaries to obtain visas ever since Cesar(sic) Chavez was elected president of Venezuela.”
I know there are problems periodically with missionary visas, so this one might or might not have anything to do with Chavez.
There was also this blurb in El Universal from last November:
Universal, 9 Nov 2004:
También denunció Lara las acciones de un grupo religioso mormón en sectores populares de la capital que estaría cuestionando el ejercicio del Gobierno venezolano “siguiendo directrices de factores trasnacionales de poder”. Aseguró Lara que plantearán el caso en la Asamblea Nacional.
An English version from the Venezuelananalysis.com plus more info on alleged harassment of missionaries:
“Lara also announced a proposal by the MVR in the National Assembly to begin an investigation into the activities of Mormon groups in Caracas that in their missionary work are allegedly promoting positions against the national government, following the directives of international companies.
The U.S. State Department is monitoring Mormon complaints of harassment in Venezuela dating back to 2002, when Missionaries of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints claimed that the National Guard harassed them conducting unnecessary strip searches and intimidating them.”
I don’t know if this is true or not, just thought I’d toss it out and see if anyone else had anymore insight.
Reports of harrassment of Americans and American-affiliated people (like missionaries) are certainy in keeping with my recent experiences in Venezuela. A Venezuelan woman who was doing some survey work for me was beaten up for supposedly working for the CIA. (As if the CIA were especially interested in the evolution of electoral strategies and partisan institutions…)
This may obviously have some implications for the church, along the lines of what you’ve mentioned.
By the way, Pres. Webb is a very nice man.
More fallout from Robertson’s big mouth; from Reuter’s as quoted on the New York Times website:
Venezuela’s government temporarily suspended permits for foreign missionaries on Friday, four days after the American evangelist Pat Robertson called for the assassination of President Hugo Chávez.
The chief of the Justice Ministry’s religious affairs unit, Carlos González, said Friday that authorization of permits for missionaries would be curbed while the government tightened regulations on preachers inside Venezuela.
The permits “are suspended for a short time, it could be three or four weeks, while we organize a system to see what additional data we need for people coming into the country to preach,” Mr. González said.
“We were already working on this, but these declarations have made us speed things up,” he said.
I wasn’t able to find any info on the Venezuelan government’s website, so I’m not sure if the restrictions will affect LDS missionaries or not. I imagine it will.
I’m sure this will affect LDS missionaries. The news reports suggest that this is a direct response to Robertson’s fatwa.
Wouldn’t it be ironic if Robertson managed to get some of Venezuela’s oil destined for poor, religious & medical communities? lol…
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/08/30/MTFH75938_2005-08-30_02-47-24_HO010025.html
Chavez’s Marxist orientation and his strong ties to Castro and other enemies of the US warrant great concern, but I am shocked that Roberts would call for his assassination. Are we also justified in invading the country in some kind of preemptive strike to make sure that we have our choice of a dictator on the throne? And yes, as Clark pointed out, the fact that some kind of an election was held does not mean that a person is not a dictator or that the people are somehow living in freedom - a lesson that can be applied to other lands, as well.
Jeff and Clark,
I agree that elections as such aren’t a definitive sign of democracy. The Soviet Union held regular elections throughout its regime, as did Saddam Hussein. However, free and fair elections are one of the defining traits of democracy as a political regime; the others in the most common definition include freedom of the press, freedom of association, and universal suffrage. While there’s room for modest concern about freedom of the press in Venezuela, it’s also true that all of these features are essentially in place in Venezuela.
Do Venezuelans have total freedom? Obviously not. On the other hand, for most Venezuelans, by far the biggest limitations on freedom are economic and social, not political.
Why not? Well, first of all, Chavez was elected. Several times, in fact.
Nicely said. Too bad he has trouble allowing us freedom of religion, but maybe that will come around.
Thank you very much for posting the information about Venezuela.
For better or worse, I think we’ll see a lot more leaders like him in Latin America in coming years. If these countries are going to be truly democratic, we’re going to see a lot more people who represent the poor (or claim to represent the poor) reach power.
I haven’t been to Venezuela, but I have been to five other countries in Latin America, most recently Ecuador. Polarization is a real problem there as well, which shouldn’t be surprising to anyone who has spent time in any of these countries that have such a wide disparity between rich and poor. I wasn’t there long enough to get a total feel for the politics, but what I was told by more than one person is that all the political parties are corrupt, that the rightists help the wealthier get wealthier and that the leftists use the poor rather than help them.
The political situation in Ecuador isn’t all that stable. It is interesting though, that according to what I was told, George Bush is universally unpopular. People there believe that the U.S. is in Iraq because of its oil (even I, as a strong critic of Bush, don’t believe that).
I’m saddened to hear about the temporary ban on missionaries in Venezuela. I hope things are resolved soon. And I suppose that’s another good reason for the church to stay out of politics.
I lived in Venezuela for almost 6 months last year and left a few days before the election. From what I saw a lot of the people who voted “Sí” for the referendum were in danger of being fired from there jobs. Chavez is unfairly using his position against the opposition and those disagree with him. He has locked up a few opposition leaders for no reason. In my opinion there was fraud in the election mostky because the people were afraid of losing their jobs if they voted against Chavez. Basically he’s bullying his own people to keep him in power. He’s also been stiring up a lot of anti-americanism.
Danielito, there is documentation of a few people losing their jobs for voting against Chavez in the referendum. This isn’t reasonable behavior, but it unfortunately is a long-standing tradition in Venezuela… Just ask supporters of LCR in 1993…
The idea that Chavez is bullying his own people is somewhat problematic. In surveys, including those run by the opposition, Chavez comes out as the most popular president in the Western hemisphere.
I am certainly worried about the different absurd legal actions against opposition leaders. That’s a first step in a very dark direction, and I hope they remain isolated incidents. Even at that level, however, it’s upsetting; I’m personal friends with some of the prosecuted leaders.
Chavez certainly is stirring up a lot of anti-americanism; but that’s his right, no? If that’s electorally viable, as it seems to be, then it’s democratic for him to do that, just as it was democratic for Bush to stir up a lot of anti-Iraq sentiment back in 2002.
Looks like the church decided to pull the missionaries before they were kicked out, like the New Tribes missionaries were two weeks ago.
From the KSL website:
SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — The LDS Church has put a stop to missions in Venezuela.
Spokesman Dale Bills says difficulties concerning visas for missionaries has led The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to remove its missionaries from Venezuela.
Bills says the problem involves renewing visas and obtaining new visas for missionaries serving in that country. He says the church will reassign missionaries serving in Venezuela to other Spanish-speaking missions in Latin America, the U-S and Canada.
(Copyright 2005 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
Big news, but almost certainly a wise choice given the direction of things in that country right now.
Has anyone heard whether they removed Latin American missionaries as well?
A poster on another board claims his son left Venezuela and has been assigned to Las Vegas for the remaining 4 months of his mission. According to this man, he and the other families were told Saturday of the move. He went on to say that native/regional missionaries would stay, but wouldnt’ wear white shirts and would try to blend in with the population. I don’t know the poster, nor have I had any chance to verify anything else he’s written, so take it with a grain of salt.
Capt. Jack’s report is exactly what I heard this morning from the Caracas mission president. So consider it verified. The church is trying to dial down its visibility in Venezuela, while still keeping as many programs as possible in motion. A difficult balancing act, to be sure.
I’ve spent a year now encouraging Americans to avoid Venezuela. It’s just too difficult there given the existing tensions. I’m glad that the church is taking those tensions seriously.
J. Stapley: I have heard one second-hand report out of Church Headquarters that Latin American missionaries were pulled out as well. This doesn’t mean that it is true. Rumors fly around the COB like everywhere else.
As for Chavez, he strikes me as a populist demogogue. What could be more democratic than that?
(One reason that I am a liberal rather than a democrat, or at anyrate someone who places the accent on liberal in “liberal democracy.”)
I was actually one of the missionaries that served in Venezuela when the missionaries were pulled out. I lived there for a year and a half, and the things that Chavez was doing were very socialistic, yet secretive. For example, the reason that the poor support him there is because Chavez offers them a house and a job in exchange for their vote, and if they don’t vote for him, he pulls their job and their home. There were members that had problems getting jobs after getting out of said contract and declaring that he wouldn’t vote for Chavez. Television stations and news stories have been shut-down if they speak against Chavez.
As for the Latin American missionaries, they were pulled out for a time (when I was pulled). Last I knew, they have been slowly allowing other Latin-American missionaries back into Venezuela.
We’ll just say that we gringo missionaries had a lot of trouble with the Chavistas (Chavez supporters) that weren’t members.
Economically, the country is very socialist as well, but I won’t go into that. In short, if anyone says that Venezuela is still a democracy needs to take a second evaluation. And I was on the east side of the country, not even near the capital.
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